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By: Bart Verwilst

Bart Verwilst — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:55:34 +0000

Andy, it’s not really the “theme”, but the overall look and feel of the widgets themselves, no matter how they are themed. For some reason, I always think of KDE/Qt apps as a form with some widgets thrown on it, while a Gnome/GTK app is really one solid interface… hard to explain

Actually Peter Leemans suggested Vala, and that seemed to be pretty nice too, Gnome-ish and C#-ish, just what i was looking for

By: Andy Goossens

Andy Goossens — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:27:54 +0000

I will suggest something that you already mentioned: PyQt. You like the syntax/API of both, so why not?

Maybe you don’t like the Qt theme. That’s something that can be changed easily. Plently of themes are available and you can even use CSS to style your Qt applications.

Kubuntu makes heavy use of PyQt + Python-KDE bindings. I won’t see that going away soon.

And of course, you can always improve the bindings yourself

By: Johan Van den Neste

Johan Van den Neste — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:03:34 +0000

From a true developer’s perspective: The uber language is something that looks lispy. Now, the problem with that is that lispy languages have never been very practical. Since I work as a java developer, and java is quite primitive, I’ve been looking into some jvm-based options, both of which lean closer to a more ‘functional’ style of programming: Scala (non-lispy) and Clojure (lispy). Although Scala is pretty much the opposite of Clojure, it’s still a lot more powerful than java. But Clojure is most definately my favourite. It’s a language for the future for a several reasons, of which the most important one it’s refreshing take on concurrency.

By: Bart Verwilst

Bart Verwilst — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:19:41 +0000

@claudio: I was unaware about the level of support for those GNOME bindings. At the time i was looking for bindings, I still was a KDE lover, where the bindings really _are_ ( or at least were ) third-class, incomplete, stalled projects… I guess i assumed the same for Gtk/Gnome

Actually I’m looking at Gtkmm for the moment.. looks pretty nice.

By: claudio

claudio — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:59:17 +0000

I find it a little weird that you don’t like Java but at the same time you like … C#. C# feels like a Java clone to me. And I have the same feeling about at being a trap once we as a community depend firmly on something that where Microsoft is making the decisions and it -weird enough for a VM- tied to their OS.

Then you categorize gtk-bindings as third-rank. C++
C#, Java, Python and Perl have *official* GNOME bindings. That’s right, C# has gtk-bindings and is as first/third class as the rest.

I don’t like the QT look and feel either and use mostly Perl + gtk2-perl bindings + glade. However, lately I am using Java + Swing + Gtk look and feel. Designing an UI in Netbeans is really easy and fast as you draw the windows instead of writing all the widgets and their relations. This way I invest my time in the application logic instead of the UI. The java gtk look and feel is far from perfect, but it’s getting there.

Regards,

Claudio

By: Bart Verwilst

Bart Verwilst — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:37:03 +0000

I find C to be too low-level for my taste.. I don’t want to deal with memory allocations and the like.. Higher level languages enable you to focus on the task at hand right away..

By: Philip Paeps

Philip Paeps — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:04:51 +0000

What’s wrong with C?

I work as a software consultant and more than 90% of the code I read and write is C. The remaining 10% are mainly Makefiles and some shell scripts and maybe some C++ here and there.

Once you really “get” C, you find it’s really all you need.

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